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	<title>Comments on: Original Sin: A Disputation – by Fr. Edward T. Oakes</title>
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	<description>No one was paying attention to the sky...</description>
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		<title>By: fragileswan</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. Excellent skill, but short on useful conclusion. I forgot which post it actually is, but on my blog somewhere is the factual basis for original sin. Well, maybe I haven&#039;t posted it yet, I can&#039;t remember. I&#039;ve been tying to post the information most immediately necessary to prevent the collapse of civilization. 

Come to think of it, I haven&#039;t done a whole post devoted to original sin, but the Truth of it can be derived from other posts. I didn&#039;t think up the solution myself. One of my friends gave it to me. I&#039;ll post it tomorrow and you can read it. I just didn&#039;t think it was that important for people to know.

I can tell you this: There is an enemy who has been working toward a SINGLE END AND GOAL since time began. Mythically we know what this is, but without concrete facts to back up our beliefs.

The proof lies in nature. As of late, the enemy has been been using atheist doctrine to spread a smoke screen over the Truth of natural mammalian mating. Flawed research studies done on animals in captivity have shown similar sexual perversions to humans held in prison. Atheists, sodomites and feminists have proclaimed this as Truth. 

But the mammalian male naturally mates the female of like species only when she is fertile, in a single mating act. This is natural mammalian mating as God created it.

When Truth is known, original sin is revealed. If the virgin is mated only when she is fertile, in a single mating act after which she conceives, she will never experience the man&#039;s pleasure.

She will know only suffering. Therefore she does not sin. God imputes no guilt to the suffering innocent. The chaste virgin conceives without stain. If she continues to mate only when fertile, she will not have relations again until she is fertile once more. All else is godless abomination.

Eating fruit from The Tree of The Good and Bad (pleasure and pain) is the allegory of the woman learning the man&#039;s God-given share in the pleasure of creation of God The Father. She had previously know her own God-given share in the pain of atonement of God The Son: the virgin&#039;s pain of atonement. 

But the woman thought to herself, &#039;No! I won&#039;t surely die; for God knows the moment I learn the pleasure of creation of God The Father I shall know both the pain of atonement of God The Son and the pleasure of creation of God The Father, making me like God; knowing both pleasure and pain.

The woman learning the man&#039;s pleasure is the antithesis of her receiving Holy Eucharist. Christ is The Tree of Life. His Fruit is Holy Eucharist, Who restores immortality lost to all men through female consensual sensual pleasure. 

There&#039;s more. I&#039;m not sure I can fit it all in one post, but the ultimate plan of God, from beginning to end snaps clearly into view, and the temporal reflections of reality align with their corresponding Eternal Realities, making sense of ALL, especially biblical content.

The root purpose and meaning of existence, the most fundamental desire of the human heart is immortality and absolute power. That&#039;s why Satan has launched an all out onslaught against virginity, chastity and the purpose of the virgin&#039;s hymen: the seal God placed over the virgin&#039;s blood sacrifice of innocence. 

Who else do we know released Blood and Water when pierced? Jesus! Jesus pierced by the Roman soldier is the Eternal Reality of which the virgin pierced by her bridegroom is the temporal reflection. Jesus belongs to Rome, and the virgin belongs to her bridegroom. 

Ok, I have to do my homework. I&#039;ll try to post the rest within a week.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. Excellent skill, but short on useful conclusion. I forgot which post it actually is, but on my blog somewhere is the factual basis for original sin. Well, maybe I haven&#8217;t posted it yet, I can&#8217;t remember. I&#8217;ve been tying to post the information most immediately necessary to prevent the collapse of civilization. </p>
<p>Come to think of it, I haven&#8217;t done a whole post devoted to original sin, but the Truth of it can be derived from other posts. I didn&#8217;t think up the solution myself. One of my friends gave it to me. I&#8217;ll post it tomorrow and you can read it. I just didn&#8217;t think it was that important for people to know.</p>
<p>I can tell you this: There is an enemy who has been working toward a SINGLE END AND GOAL since time began. Mythically we know what this is, but without concrete facts to back up our beliefs.</p>
<p>The proof lies in nature. As of late, the enemy has been been using atheist doctrine to spread a smoke screen over the Truth of natural mammalian mating. Flawed research studies done on animals in captivity have shown similar sexual perversions to humans held in prison. Atheists, sodomites and feminists have proclaimed this as Truth. </p>
<p>But the mammalian male naturally mates the female of like species only when she is fertile, in a single mating act. This is natural mammalian mating as God created it.</p>
<p>When Truth is known, original sin is revealed. If the virgin is mated only when she is fertile, in a single mating act after which she conceives, she will never experience the man&#8217;s pleasure.</p>
<p>She will know only suffering. Therefore she does not sin. God imputes no guilt to the suffering innocent. The chaste virgin conceives without stain. If she continues to mate only when fertile, she will not have relations again until she is fertile once more. All else is godless abomination.</p>
<p>Eating fruit from The Tree of The Good and Bad (pleasure and pain) is the allegory of the woman learning the man&#8217;s God-given share in the pleasure of creation of God The Father. She had previously know her own God-given share in the pain of atonement of God The Son: the virgin&#8217;s pain of atonement. </p>
<p>But the woman thought to herself, &#8216;No! I won&#8217;t surely die; for God knows the moment I learn the pleasure of creation of God The Father I shall know both the pain of atonement of God The Son and the pleasure of creation of God The Father, making me like God; knowing both pleasure and pain.</p>
<p>The woman learning the man&#8217;s pleasure is the antithesis of her receiving Holy Eucharist. Christ is The Tree of Life. His Fruit is Holy Eucharist, Who restores immortality lost to all men through female consensual sensual pleasure. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s more. I&#8217;m not sure I can fit it all in one post, but the ultimate plan of God, from beginning to end snaps clearly into view, and the temporal reflections of reality align with their corresponding Eternal Realities, making sense of ALL, especially biblical content.</p>
<p>The root purpose and meaning of existence, the most fundamental desire of the human heart is immortality and absolute power. That&#8217;s why Satan has launched an all out onslaught against virginity, chastity and the purpose of the virgin&#8217;s hymen: the seal God placed over the virgin&#8217;s blood sacrifice of innocence. </p>
<p>Who else do we know released Blood and Water when pierced? Jesus! Jesus pierced by the Roman soldier is the Eternal Reality of which the virgin pierced by her bridegroom is the temporal reflection. Jesus belongs to Rome, and the virgin belongs to her bridegroom. </p>
<p>Ok, I have to do my homework. I&#8217;ll try to post the rest within a week.</p>
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		<title>By: Theodicy and the Idea of Salvation &#171; Paying Attention To The Sky</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Original Sin &#8212; Utterly Mysterious And Philosophically Certain Again, Augustine’s account of the abuse of freedom has not convinced all the commentators. It is hard to see why spirits that were perfectly happy and good at the first moment of their existence (such as Augustine supposes all finite spirits to be) should fall victim to temptation. Any causal account one might give of how this could happen would seem to presuppose that they had fallen already; thus, if it were pride which made them fall, then they had already fallen into the sin of pride. It is noteworthy that Kant regarded original sin as both utterly mysterious and philosophically certain. See Fr. Edward Oakes excellent meditation on this here . [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Original Sin &#8212; Utterly Mysterious And Philosophically Certain Again, Augustine’s account of the abuse of freedom has not convinced all the commentators. It is hard to see why spirits that were perfectly happy and good at the first moment of their existence (such as Augustine supposes all finite spirits to be) should fall victim to temptation. Any causal account one might give of how this could happen would seem to presuppose that they had fallen already; thus, if it were pride which made them fall, then they had already fallen into the sin of pride. It is noteworthy that Kant regarded original sin as both utterly mysterious and philosophically certain. See Fr. Edward Oakes excellent meditation on this here . [...]</p>
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